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winsrev KeyContributor 270 posts since
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May 6, 2008 6:25 AM

What features would you like to see in Spark?

Hello Ignite Community,

 

Okay, so, i've been fixing and adding some new features to Spark, but, what the Jira seems to lack the most is what features that the community are actually look for, so, today i pledge to you to share with us the features that you would like to see in the next spark (not 2.5.9 but 3.0.0 is Daniel wants to go to that for the next version)

 

Try and give a good description of the feautre too.

 

Thanks,

WinSrev

  • sixthring KeyContributor 3,799 posts since
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    1. May 6, 2008 6:36 AM (in response to winsrev)
    Re: What features would you like to see in Spark?

    A smaller footprint would be real nice.

  • jeffreyvsmith Silver 106 posts since
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    2. May 6, 2008 7:41 AM (in response to winsrev)
    Re: What features would you like to see in Spark?

    I would like to see a lite version, geared more toward the enterprises wanting a minimal, but good-looking, IM client. Some people need all the features, but for most of my users I wish I could remove the icons and menu options for VoIP, downloads, broadcasts, etc. They just need chat, that's it. A smaller memory footprint on the 'full' client, the ability to deploy via Group Policies without needing a script to put the properties files in the right place (%USERPROFILE%/spark). I'm sure I'll come up with more later.

  • jeffreyvsmith Silver 106 posts since
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    5. May 6, 2008 7:59 AM (in response to winsrev)
    Re: What features would you like to see in Spark?

    That's fine. Perhaps then, since I bet many users are using active directory, an ADM template for managing Spark settings via group policies. Ultimately I am just looking for tighter control over what the IM users can do. Thanks for soliciting suggestions.

  • sixthring KeyContributor 3,799 posts since
    Apr 2, 2007

    Now this post made me remember some reall issues:

     

     

     

     

     

    Preferences on OS X and Windows are stored in the wrong location. The root of a profile is not the proper location for preferences. OS X should be in the Library folder of the user at the very least. Windows should have it in the Application Data of the user profile.

     

     

     

     

     

    Default download location should be outside of the spark preferences folder.  Ideally it should be in a subfolder of the My Documents folder of windows or Documents folder of OS X (10.5 has a downloads folder).  The best solution would be to cause a wizard to run the first time spark is launched to set the downloads location, and other custom settings.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Broadcasts should honor the server settings. If broadcasting is disabled users should not be able to do this. Currently they can.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Sepparate the Gateway Icon bar and the Function Icon bar (Downloads, Broadcast, etc) onto 2 different horozontal bars. When the roster window is made thinner the gateway icons are not available (see image, I have 5 gateways running).

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  • Daniel Henninger KeyContributor 2,972 posts since
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    7. May 6, 2008 8:36 AM (in response to sixthring)
    Re: What features would you like to see in Spark?

    Wow winsrev, why don't you just paint a target on your face.    Kidding.

     

    One thought I had regarding the button bar that Todd mentions is, maybe instead of two horizontal rows, embrace the concept of the "more" or "sliding" design.  In other words.... 

     

    More Style:

    This is what you see in Windows XP in the "shortcut" area and the doc area.  When there are more icons than can fit, a little "show more" option shows up and it pops up the rest of them for you to interact with.

     

    Slider Style:

    Left and right arrows, you click right to "slide" to the right to see more buttons.

     

    Personally I don't like the idea of cluttering vertically with two horizontal bars.  And really, any of those rows can just get wider and wider the more extra stuff is installed.  It would be better to "cut it off at the pass" so to speak.  Note that I attemped to work out the slider design and never had time to get anywhere with it.

     

    BTW, one of the biggest things -I'd- like to see is a better chat transcript handler.  I rely on my chat transcripts and Spark pisses them away easily.  Right now, if I shut down Spark I lose all of the active transcripts.  I have to close each tab individually first to actually save each transcript.

     

    In my ideal world, the entire thing ought to be redone from the ground up.  Adium's style is good and I think is a good model to go with.  Basically you have a transcript "task" of sorts that's sitting there writing transcript entries to disk.  Incoming messages are sent to this transcript manager/task/whatever you want to call it and it queues up messages that need to be saved, in a different thread, and is capable of throttling and such.  If you save immediately after every message in the same thread as what's displaying the messages, you will start seeing some slowdown as file systems are accessed and such.  Just gets in the way.  =)  This is another thing I was working out in my head and never had time to get anywhere with.

  • sixthring KeyContributor 3,799 posts since
    Apr 2, 2007

    I like the slider idea as well.  Better than my lame idea.

  • Daniel Henninger KeyContributor 2,972 posts since
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    10. May 6, 2008 8:53 AM (in response to winsrev)
    Re: What features would you like to see in Spark?

    laugh  Could I do it?  Probably.  Do I have time to?  No way.  =)

  • jeffreyvsmith Silver 106 posts since
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    12. May 6, 2008 10:14 AM (in response to winsrev)
    Re: What features would you like to see in Spark?

    Currently, even after clearing the roster cache on the server, spark must log out and then log back in for roster group changes to appear. Would be nice if the client occasionally requested roster updates if any and applied without logging in and out.

  • sixthring KeyContributor 3,799 posts since
    Apr 2, 2007

     

    Roster changes are delivered to spark but it takes a very long time.  This does need to be improved.

     

     

     

     

     

    Also like broadcasts spark does not care what settings you have on the server, it will allow file transfers.

     

     

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